Is this really such a faux pas? (AKA, Am I The Asshole?)

[neuro]

I once asked a vendor, won't name who or where, how much of the substitute (and strong) opioid was in the pills they make before I buy? They respond somewhat annoyed saying "how can you ask such a thing? this has nothing to do with making transactions!" I would beg to differ.

Background:
Well the person sells several pills,calling them lets say, Dilaudid 2mg, Dilaudid 4mg, Dilaudid 8mg pressed pills, but advertises it has no dilaudid in it but actually another (highly potent) opioid I won't name to keep vendors info 100% as possible anonymous right now whether they be on this board or not.

Is this really such a faux pas? I mean, hell, don't we all want to stay safe and not kill ourselves or our friends we might give these pills to? How would anyone have any idea how much to take? How can i trust you thoroughly mix active opioid and binder and know the percentage of pure drug to binder to say make an equivalence (this pill has ###mg/mcg of opioid Y that's equal according to opioid conversion charts to Dilaudid 2mg, for example).

if you're not scamming, and selling different pill denominations under a different identity, but still being honest and saying what's in them, then you should know roughly what each pill amounts to....is it such a crime to ask this?

Am I the Asshole?

 

[Teko]

I can talk you about, mora, ethics, meta-ethics. But if you just want a pill with alprazolam its ok. If he gets angry at the question, it is because he knows he is doing something wrong and tries to avoid saying that his merchandise is dirty. If he sells you something that he didn't tell you what it was, it is a scam, that is, it is something illegitimate, ethically speaking, he is entering into a performative contradiction by selling something that he did not say he was selling, therefore it is immoral. In fact, selling drugs is not wrong, since it does not enter into contradiction and all the evils of drugs are independent of it, it is like saying that we have to prohibit pencils because it can kill, in addition to the fact that the prohibition of drugs comes to the mafias with an extraordinary profit from which they can risk their lives and by not having access to a court or public security they have to impose their justice and being non-intellectual people they do it wrong

 

[neuro]

I can talk you about, mora, ethics, meta-ethics. But if you just want a pill with alprazolam its ok. If he gets angry at the question, it is because he knows he is doing something wrong and tries to avoid saying that his merchandise is dirty. If he sells you something that he didn't tell you what it was, it is a scam, that is, it is something illegitimate, ethically speaking, he is entering into a performative contradiction by selling something that he did not say he was selling, therefore it is immoral. In fact, selling drugs is not wrong, since it does not enter into contradiction and all the evils of drugs are independent of it, it is like saying that we have to prohibit pencils because it can kill, in addition to the fact that the prohibition of drugs comes to the mafias with an extraordinary profit from which they can risk their lives and by not having access to a court or public security they have to impose their justice and being non-intellectual people they do it wrong

TekoI'd be inclined to agree... In this case, the guy was upfront that the pill pressing stamps, if looked up would say oxycodone, however he did say it was definitely NOT oxycodone in it. However he won't say how much of the other opioid (which was quite a ton more powerful in this case) was in it... so yeah still unethical if you ask me. Seems like the guy is scamming now anyway after being legit for a while. Typical evolution. So guess i dodged two bullets, mortally and financially.

 

[general]

No i wouldnt say its you.i wouldnt buy anything there was no claim to contain this or that statement.who the hell wants to buy the unknown,a drug test reagent only gets you so far.buying something from anyone requires a comittment on their belief of,"this is what the hell it is".maybe its just me

I once asked a vendor, won't name who or where, how much of the substitute (and strong) opioid was in the pills they make before I buy? They respond somewhat annoyed saying "how can you ask such a thing? this has nothing to do with making transactions!" I would beg to differ.

Background:
Well the person sells several pills,calling them lets say, Dilaudid 2mg, Dilaudid 4mg, Dilaudid 8mg pressed pills, but advertises it has no dilaudid in it but actually another (highly potent) opioid I won't name to keep vendors info 100% as possible anonymous right now whether they be on this board or not.

Is this really such a faux pas? I mean, hell, don't we all want to stay safe and not kill ourselves or our friends we might give these pills to? How would anyone have any idea how much to take? How can i trust you thoroughly mix active opioid and binder and know the percentage of pure drug to binder to say make an equivalence (this pill has ###mg/mcg of opioid Y that's equal according to opioid conversion charts to Dilaudid 2mg, for example).

if you're not scamming, and selling different pill denominations under a different identity, but still being honest and saying what's in them, then you should know roughly what each pill amounts to....is it such a crime to ask this?

Am I the Asshole?

neuro