Potency of ADB-BUTINACA

[malayboy]

I got ADB-BUTINACA from a vendor who said:

It is possible that this one batch is weaker
There is nothing wrong with the product, it is adbb

CAS Number: 2682867-55-4
Molecular Formula: C18H26N4O2

but I thought the potency of ADB-BUTINACA will be active in mg range? I taste it directly in grams, no effect at all, am I got ripped off? or there are actually another CAS number of ADB-BUTINACA with strong potency?

 

[Selassi]

Its DEFENITELY not in the gram range.
I think u die if u ingest a gram of abd-b hehehe

 

[madmoney69]

Adbb good stuff. Weaker than 5cl but top stuff. MG would get you high

 

[malayboy]

just took another gram, nothing happen, i guess the china vendor now selling only low-end stuff

 

[Selassi]

Well a lot of vendor selling inferior stuff since the ban

 

[malayboy]

sigh.... gonna make it our own

 

[Selassi]

Yes better to do your own synth, then u will know what u have

 

[XenocodeRCE]

Unfortunately sounds like it was a scam and inactive chem.
Adb b is active in very small amounts.
1 gram is alot for a dose way too much like the above said.

Techtrainexactly

also we shall stop from saying "6cl is weaker / 4f abd is stronger" etc like these person because there are no objective "strength" or scale, its all subjective experiences. its qualitative by definition there is no scale, only quantitative is scalable

 

[Selassi]

Well tbh some noids are def "weaker" then others. They all behave slightly different on receptor activity/affinity.

There is a very interesting piece on synth noids here:

http://bbzzzsvqcrqtki6umym6itiixfhni37ybtt7mkbjyxn2pgllzxf2qgyd.onion/threads/common-pathway-for-cannabinoids-syntheses.1484/

 

[XenocodeRCE]

Well tbh some noids are def "weaker" then others.

There is a very interesting piece on synth noids here:

http://bbzzzsvqcrqtki6umym6itiixfhni37ybtt7mkbjyxn2pgllzxf2qgyd.onion/threads/common-pathway-for-cannabinoids-syntheses.1484/

Selassiagain how to prove it ? no objective scale, this is pure speculation. synthesis is science and science can prove or disprove things, subjective experience cannot

as stated before, a noid is effective or its not. sometimes you smoke JWH and then your body needs more to feel the same, so you switch to ABD FUBINACA or anything else and you think wow pure magic its the best noid but its not, its habituation.

only objective scale in science for noid potency is EC50 potency on CB receptors themselves. but since except if you do the synth yourself you mostly have chalk and impurities and garbage chems you cant really have a proper EC50 test

 

[Selassi]

again how to prove it ? no objective scale, this is pure speculation. synthesis is science and science can prove or disprove things, subjective experience cannot

as stated before, a noid is effective or its not. sometimes you smoke JWH and then your body needs more to feel the same, so you switch to ABD FUBINACA or anything else and you think wow pure magic its the best noid but its not, its habituation.

only objective scale in science for noid potency is EC50 potency on CB receptors themselves. but since except if you do the synth yourself you mostly have chalk and impurities and garbage chems you cant really have a proper EC50 test

XenocodeRCEOw yea yur defenitely right on this, experience-based information is very subjective.

 

[XenocodeRCE]

Ec50 I've never heard of this test.
Yes. Tolerance builds up very quickly.
And another thing to keep in mind is if any natural cannabinoids from the plant are saturated then the synthetic will not work as if they were not present.

Techtrain

Wikiwand - EC50

Half maximal effective concentration (EC50) is a measure of the concentration of a drug, antibody or toxicant which induces a biological response halfway between the baseline and maximum after a specified exposure time. More simply, EC50 can be defined as the concentration required to obtain a...

www.wikiwand.com

 

[malayboy]

well, i agreed that experience-based information is very subjective, and Tolerance builds up very quickly, no matter natural or synthetic
But the goods received is way too low and I can say no effect at all, i am not a drug user and didn't touch marijuana or other stuffs like years,
I never heard of EC50 and did some searching, I would love to perform the test if that vendor could advise how, but looking around surely no one "EAT" grams in ADB-BUTINACA like I did just to test the potency

 

[PINTXPC88]

am very much looking forward to the fact that a synthetic cannabinoids market will start here very soon. I still wonder why it hasn't happened even though there are so many experts here. One more thing, please submit only trusted sellers because we trust this forum and its conformed to me its there no legit chinese vendors in these days

 

[Charlenedelarosa]

am very much looking forward to the fact that a synthetic cannabinoids market will start here very soon. I still wonder why it hasn't happened even though there are so many experts here. One more thing, please submit only trusted sellers because we trust this forum and its conformed to me its there no legit chinese vendors in these days

PINTXPC88
i totally agree.. the china market is gone down the drain, iv been scammed for thousands.. they just cant do it llike they used too..
i think we need a certified vendors list here. its only right the amount of experts in this forum is crazy.. .

can we make it happen ??

 

[malayboy]

i totally agree.. the china market is gone down the drain, iv been scammed for thousands.. they just cant do it llike they used too..
i think we need a certified vendors list here. its only right the amount of experts in this forum is crazy.. .

can we make it happen ??

Charlenedelarosasome of the China supplier still suspected valid, I am still currently validating them, any update will be on my Malaysia Group

 

[Charlenedelarosa]

some of the China supplier still suspected valid, I am still currently validating them, any update will be on my Malaysia Group

malayboylet me know brother.. i am looking for a legit supplier potentialy bulk orders.

 

[flightrcs]

Hello , my ADB Yellow its firecracker ! We create by ourselfs directly from China Main raw materials , but for success you need some knowledge of course for tips and tricks you can ask me , im here to contribute to this forum from now on , for any sample or even order you can also contact me !

Thanks in advance @TONI

 

[flightrcs]

Wich one is stronger adbbutinaca or 5cl?

jexana23Good evening brother! ADB Its the king! 5CL its coming behind ! ADB Its hiting you like crazy with low doses , you going for sleep instant! 5CL its for crazy euphoria , if you mix both you going to another level ! I Could ship a test for you for understand what i meaning !

Thanks in advance @Tony!

 

[madmoney69]

5CL is stronger than adbb I think like by 30% .
This was my experience with adbb and 5cl before ban and now with kits.
You get better value by doing 5CL from kit.