Difference Methylamine and methylamine hcl

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Dear reader,

I have been searching for a good explanation between the two reagents Methylamine and Methylamine hydrogen chloride, but could not find any.
The main question is, can i use methylamine hcl instead of methlamine for the synthetis of Mephedron, and why can it be used for the synthetis of Mephedron or why not?
Hope to hear from you and thanks in advance!

Greetings,
Brambus
 

Frit Buchner

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Methylamine is CH³NH². A methyl group and an ammonia group it's a gas at atmospheric pressure and temperatures. Methylamine HCL is what some people call methyl-ammonium chloride. It is CH³NH³- Cl+. It is a solid at at atmospheric pressure and temperatures. Did you see the difference? The MAC has an extra hydrogen attached to the nitrogen. Since hydrogen has 1 electron and 1proton usually and a stable atom has an even number of electrons in its valence orbit, it is looking to attract one. Chlorine has 17 electrons, 7 in its valence layer, so it is looking for one also and clings to that hydrogen. If you could just get that hydrogen off of there, then it would be methylamine. 🤔 what you need is a base, one strong enough to steal that hydrogen from the nitrogen it's attached to. With the electron goes the proton it's orbiting so it could be called a deprotonization. That is what we call it but it is neutralizing an acid. Hydrogen chloride is the acid. A few strong bases could probably do it. The cheapest one I know is lye. Sodium hydroxide NaOH if I took CH³NH³ and added NaOH,
CH³NH³+NaOH->CH³NH²+ HOH(H²O) NaCL( SALT). SO I'VE TAKEN METHYLAMMONIUM CHLORIDE, added lye to it, and it made 1 molecule of salt, one of water, and stripped the extra H off of the now methylamine. Did you know methylamine hcl ( and all hcl) has 1 mole of methylamine and 1 mole of hcl. It takes 1 mole of NaOH to neutralize 1 mole of hcl 😜 whats that supposed to fucking mean? If you take the mole weight of MENH² HCL and subtract the weight of a mole of MeNH² you have a mole weight of hcl. It's like...36 grams or something. Now look at the mole weight of NaOH, idk 31g? Whatever those numbers, 31/36= wow much lye you need, just a molecular equal amount to the hcl if the MAC. Add it and tada, it's methylamine. For the rest of this course enter your credit card info on yhe next page. To see, " Chapter 2, " oh shit methylamine is a gas and it stinks and suffocates you "
 

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Methylamine is CH³NH². A methyl group and an ammonia group it's a gas at atmospheric pressure and temperatures. Methylamine HCL is what some people call methyl-ammonium chloride. It is CH³NH³- Cl+. It is a solid at at atmospheric pressure and temperatures. Did you see the difference? The MAC has an extra hydrogen attached to the nitrogen. Since hydrogen has 1 electron and 1proton usually and a stable atom has an even number of electrons in its valence orbit, it is looking to attract one. Chlorine has 17 electrons, 7 in its valence layer, so it is looking for one also and clings to that hydrogen. If you could just get that hydrogen off of there, then it would be methylamine. 🤔 what you need is a base, one strong enough to steal that hydrogen from the nitrogen it's attached to. With the electron goes the proton it's orbiting so it could be called a deprotonization. That is what we call it but it is neutralizing an acid. Hydrogen chloride is the acid. A few strong bases could probably do it. The cheapest one I know is lye. Sodium hydroxide NaOH if I took CH³NH³ and added NaOH,
CH³NH³+NaOH->CH³NH²+ HOH(H²O) NaCL( SALT). SO I'VE TAKEN METHYLAMMONIUM CHLORIDE, added lye to it, and it made 1 molecule of salt, one of water, and stripped the extra H off of the now methylamine. Did you know methylamine hcl ( and all hcl) has 1 mole of methylamine and 1 mole of hcl. It takes 1 mole of NaOH to neutralize 1 mole of hcl 😜 whats that supposed to fucking mean? If you take the mole weight of MENH² HCL and subtract the weight of a mole of MeNH² you have a mole weight of hcl. It's like...36 grams or something. Now look at the mole weight of NaOH, idk 31g? Whatever those numbers, 31/36= wow much lye you need, just a molecular equal amount to the hcl if the MAC. Add it and tada, it's methylamine. For the rest of this course enter your credit card info on yhe next page. To see, " Chapter 2, " oh shit methylamine is a gas and it stinks and suffocates you "
Frit BuchnerThank you very much for the eleborate explanation, it was just the right information i needed! Now i know how i can let the methylamine go through a gas generator and dissolve it in distilled water!
 
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