Purple MDMA is bullshit aka a fraud

[Frit Buchner]

I was chatting with some mushroom farmers on a forum and called one of them a homo. They all thought that it was an absolute hoot. They were younger people and never heard it used like that. Their first gay slur was the f one.
Just to be clear I never use those terms to refer to LGBTQ individuals, I only call my friends those things. My wife is the official spokesperson for the demisexual identifiers group at a fortune 500 company

 

[Katty Korner]

I was chatting with some mushroom farmers on a forum and called one of them a homo. They all thought that it was an absolute hoot. They were younger people and never heard it used like that. Their first gay slur was the f one.
Just to be clear I never use those terms to refer to LGBTQ individuals, I only call my friends those things. My wife is the official spokesperson for the demisexual identifiers group at a fortune 500 company

Frit BuchnerI know this is a joke, but if your wife does work at a fortune 500, any jobs available? Desperate times and all that...

 

[Mr Good Cat]

For me, as for a perfectionist, even champagne or cola is a marketing aka bulshit and fraude. MDMA must be pure white.

 

[Richardrahl]

For me, as for a perfectionist, even champagne or cola is a marketing aka bulshit and fraude. MDMA must be pure white.

Policja PolskaEven pure white mdma or clear crystals I've encountered bullshit that tests as mdma. I've also pulled purple out of white mdma before. I believe purple is caused by borohydrides

 

[Mr Good Cat]

Even pure white mdma or clear crystals I've encountered bullshit that tests as mdma. I've also pulled purple out of white mdma before. I believe purple is caused by borohydrides

RichardrahlI'm impressed with your outlook. Have you ever tried to separate S-isomer of MDMA produced from PMK?

 

[Richardrahl]

I'm impressed with your outlook. Have you ever tried to separate S-isomer of MDMA produced from PMK?

Policja PolskaNo but MAPS has. And are studying it

 

[Mr Good Cat]

Even pure white mdma or clear crystals I've encountered bullshit that tests as mdma. I've also pulled purple out of white mdma before. I believe purple is caused by borohydrides

RichardrahlYou are right, bro. Even pretty white mdma after triple re-crystallization could be 87% only as per lab test.
What is your opinion: best solvent to separate all these contaminants when base extraction performed?

 

[Mr Good Cat]

Purple MDMA is a psychedelic drug that was first synthesized in 1912 by Alexander Shulgin. Purple MDMA is a synthetic derivative of MDMA (Ecstasy) that contains the same chemical structure as MDMA, but with a different color. It is not known how long the drug has been around, but it is believed to have been created in 1912.

bblancoShulgin was born in 1925. I doubt he might do the synth in 1912 ))))))))))))

 

[threedee]

Shulgin was born in 1925. I doubt he might do the synth in 1912 ))))))))))))

Policja PolskaNot only that, he didn't work for Merck Pharmaceuticals who patented MDMA in 1913.

 

[bblanco]

everyone his own priorities regarding usefulness...

 

[OrgUnikum]

The purple color is an impurity which arises from a NaBH4 reduction done in VERY strong alkaline conditions and from a lack of proper post reaction workup. A simple re-crystallization of the MDMA HCl from IPA/Acetone removes this and other impurities and yields white crystals.

So the purple MDMA has a high content of actual MDMA but also a certain amount of undefined crap, some of this makes it purple. If those residues from a NaBH4 reduction pose a risk to health I do not know, personally I would prefer to have no borine-compounds in my drugs.

For some reasons the drug-scene has been highly resistant against the age of information. I thought with da Intanet and Wikipedia most of thefairy tales and myths regarding drugs would simply evaporate, but instead it got worse.
I came to the conclusion that this is caused by some basic, fundamental human trait, which is that the vast majority of humans by nature does not want to KNOW. They want to BELIEVE. Its a protective mechanism too, the frail ego at the center of what one thinks as personality could not stand the cold winds of reality which tell that there is no free will. no real choice. If you want to KNOW you will find out. If you choose to BeELIEVE - well there is considerable more leeway and it keeps reality in general much more flexible. I don't blame anybody, I wish I would be like them. Sometimes.

 

[threedee]

The purple color is an impurity which arises from a NaBH4 reduction done in VERY strong alkaline conditions and from a lack of proper post reaction workup. A simple re-crystallization of the MDMA HCl from IPA/Acetone removes this and other impurities and yields white crystals.

So the purple MDMA has a high content of actual MDMA but also a certain amount of undefined crap, some of this makes it purple. If those residues from a NaBH4 reduction pose a risk to health I do not know, personally I would prefer to have no borine-compounds in my drugs.

For some reasons the drug-scene has been highly resistant against the age of information. I thought with da Intanet and Wikipedia most of thefairy tales and myths regarding drugs would simply evaporate, but instead it got worse.
I came to the conclusion that this is caused by some basic, fundamental human trait, which is that the vast majority of humans by nature does not want to KNOW. They want to BELIEVE. Its a protective mechanism too, the frail ego at the center of what one thinks as personality could not stand the cold winds of reality which tell that there is no free will. no real choice. If you want to KNOW you will find out. If you choose to BeELIEVE - well there is considerable more leeway and it keeps reality in general much more flexible. I don't blame anybody, I wish I would be like them. Sometimes.

OrgUnikumAh, this is the philosophy I love to explore.

Perspective, context, comfort and control. All these things blend together to make humans more or less malleable, more or less relatable and more or less empathetic.

For countless generations we have been culturally conditioned to accept the word of our elders/betters/leaders/shamen and to do so without question.

We are, indeed, a flock.

Critical thinking is a skill that often involves isolation, ridicule, avoidance and cruelty. We who choose to explore the world with open eyes, are not the norm.

Do hard things - life has become too easy and our brains less used than ever before.

 

[Cranston]

Consider yourself lucky if it's 5-MAPB...

 

[PNicole]

Around 2017, my market was littered with this purple stuff. It was MDMA but very impure. Some may know the frustration as you may have crystal clear product....but people talk about the purple stuff.

One day I had a 100g or so fraction of undistilled MDP2P from performic. It was left over fraction and was forgot about and didnt make the vacuum distillation step.

So I decided to run a fun experiment while other projects were happening.

To make purple MDMA, the following is required:

1-Put yourself in the shoes of a useless piece of shit low achieving cook.
2-NEVER distill anything.

Undistilled MDP2P with a reddish color - removed DCM through simple distillation.

Proceed with Al/Hg + Toluene extraction.

Product will be purple. It is simply a function of undistilled ketone and amine. No amount of Acetone will remove the color.

 

[Handsomerx]

Around 2017, my market was littered with this purple stuff. It was MDMA but very impure. Some may know the frustration as you may have crystal clear product....but people talk about the purple stuff.

One day I had a 100g or so fraction of undistilled MDP2P from performic. It was left over fraction and was forgot about and didnt make the vacuum distillation step.

So I decided to run a fun experiment while other projects were happening.

To make purple MDMA, the following is required:

1-Put yourself in the shoes of a useless piece of shit low achieving cook.
2-NEVER distill anything.

Undistilled MDP2P with a reddish color - removed DCM through simple distillation.

Proceed with Al/Hg + Toluene extraction.

Product will be purple. It is simply a function of undistilled ketone and amine. No amount of Acetone will remove the color.

PNicoleHi there!
Useless piece of shit low achieving cook here.
Or a guy who’s vacuum broke

doesn’t feel any different to me, what about you?

 

[Cranston]

Around 2017, my market was littered with this purple stuff. It was MDMA but very impure. Some may know the frustration as you may have crystal clear product....but people talk about the purple stuff.

One day I had a 100g or so fraction of undistilled MDP2P from performic. It was left over fraction and was forgot about and didnt make the vacuum distillation step.

So I decided to run a fun experiment while other projects were happening.

To make purple MDMA, the following is required:

1-Put yourself in the shoes of a useless piece of shit low achieving cook.
2-NEVER distill anything.

Undistilled MDP2P with a reddish color - removed DCM through simple distillation.

Proceed with Al/Hg + Toluene extraction.

Product will be purple. It is simply a function of undistilled ketone and amine. No amount of Acetone will remove the color.

PNicoleDear PNicole,
do you adore Ms. Kidman?
Actually she doesn't look anymore like in your avatar.
Nowadays it's more frightening.
Sincerely, humbly yours, The Cranston.

 

[Handsomerx]

When I accidentally make purple mdma, it’s because there’s some residual acid left in the ketone. Ketone goes in red, mdma comes out a different color, tan to purple.

makes no difference in the effect/purity from what I can tell

 

[SoldadoDeDrogas]

MDMA was indeed first synthesized in 1912. Shulgin "rediscovered" it by realizing its psychoactive potential and made it popular with his research.

Anybody remember the "legal alternatives" to 'ecstasy/rave pills' that were being advertised online like 10-15 years ago?
I believe they were called "Purple Oms" ..this thread made me think of them. I never tried em', anyone know what they were?

 

[Frit Buchner]

MDMA was indeed first synthesized in 1912. Shulgin "rediscovered" it by realizing its psychoactive potential and made it popular with his research.

Anybody remember the "legal alternatives" to 'ecstasy/rave pills' that were being advertised online like 10-15 years ago?
I believe they were called "Purple Oms" ..this thread made me think of them. I never tried em', anyone know what they were?

SoldadoDeDrogasSubstituted cathinones. The same things people are making 3mmc,4mmc, a-pvp ect. Some of them other were just herbal bullshit. I remember buying hops or some kind of plant tips sprayed with jwh and the like. The Hindus always had them tucked away and when you asked about them they gave you "that look"

 

[Cranston]

MDMA was indeed first synthesized in 1912. Shulgin "rediscovered" it by realizing its psychoactive potential and made it popular with his research.

Anybody remember the "legal alternatives" to 'ecstasy/rave pills' that were being advertised online like 10-15 years ago?
I believe they were called "Purple Oms" ..this thread made me think of them. I never tried em', anyone know what they were?

SoldadoDeDrogasDear Drug Soldier,
we (test team) can personally assure that there are some purple/brownish mdma out there that is really nice.
That is, the color comes from impurities about 3%, which are not toxic, so the color does not mean shit.
Thank you for your attentions, sir.

 

[Mr Good Cat]

Dear Drug Soldier,
we (test team) can personally assure that there are some purple/brownish mdma out there that is really nice.
That is, the color comes from impurities about 3%, which are not toxic, so the color does not mean shit.
Thank you for your attentions, sir.

CranstonIt depends on transparency and crystals size. Is crystalls are pretty big and transparent, then yes, level of impurities is around 1-2%. If crystals are cloudy and small, then much much more, up to 10-15% impurities.

 

[Cranston]

It depends on transparency and crystals size. Is crystalls are pretty big and transparent, then yes, level of impurities is around 1-2%. If crystals are cloudy and small, then much much more, up to 10-15% impurities.

Mr Good CatOf course, you are right (again). The large purple/brownish crystals were quite transparent and disintegrated into purple/grayish dust under pressure.
This could theoretically be an indication for a different isomeric ratio than 1:1. But on the other hand this was never intended, so probably improbable.

 

[SoldadoDeDrogas]

Thank you Mr. Frit Buchner,
I figured they were BS at the time - an 'energy' vitamin supplement of some sort. I was unaware of the burgeoning analog RC scene at the time.
I remember they were advertising "legal buds" also. Only looking back in retrospect I can realize what was going on. Why is it always the Hindus or Pakistanis that seem to have an 'under the counter selection' at the seedy gas stations and corner stores? Not complaining. I miss being able to get noids at the local stores - alot of them weren't great and the blend was harsh, but I would buy up all I could when I found a good batch.

Und danke, Herr Cranston,
I have not had the opportunity to try any purple MDMA. I had one good batch of ecstasy pills my whole life, that was about 20 years ago.
I've tried at least 10 different pills since and they were all caffeine at best. I have given up on trying to buy ecstasy pills. If anyone out there has the real deal, sample me and you will have a friend/customer for life. I've always been sold some kind of cathinone under the umbrella term of "molly", although similar, nothing can really compare. I have been chasing that first experience for a long while.

 

[Claz]

Thank you Mr. Frit Buchner,
I figured they were BS at the time - an 'energy' vitamin supplement of some sort. I was unaware of the burgeoning analog RC scene at the time.
I remember they were advertising "legal buds" also. Only looking back in retrospect I can realize what was going on. Why is it always the Hindus or Pakistanis that seem to have an 'under the counter selection' at the seedy gas stations and corner stores? Not complaining. I miss being able to get noids at the local stores - alot of them weren't great and the blend was harsh, but I would buy up all I could when I found a good batch.

Und danke, Herr Cranston,
I have not had the opportunity to try any purple MDMA. I had one good batch of ecstasy pills my whole life, that was about 20 years ago.
I've tried at least 10 different pills since and they were all caffeine at best. I have given up on trying to buy ecstasy pills. If anyone out there has the real deal, sample me and you will have a friend/customer for life. I've always been sold some kind of cathinone under the umbrella term of "molly", although similar, nothing can really compare. I have been chasing that first experience for a long while.

SoldadoDeDrogasDo not use pills !
Contact Pygmalion. He is honest and has he best mdma crystals I ever had.

Your psyche is also important, the vibe, your mood, the setting, etc.
Today people seem to be more stressed and in a rush than 20 years ago.
I think smartphones killed the good old vibes we had in the 90s.
In Berlin you still have clubs where you can experience that.