Questions for manufacturers here on the BB forum. What is your most successful obfuscating for sent packages?

[Never to sleep]

Think of this as sort of a poll. I'm doing a research on what seems to be the most successful method amongst drug shipments to buyers. We all have our own unique techniques to obfuscate packages with drugs to avoid them being seized during shipping. So I wanted to ask other manufacturers what is your way of going about this?

To sustain cleanliness of the post it would be nice if you described your technique and noted which specific drug this applies to (one might obfuscate various substances in varying ways). It would be nice to note whether any package packed in such a way was ever seized. Please describe what makes your method unique and what are the advantages / security measures it brings. It would also be great if you had used different ways overtime to compare them individually based on your personal opinion. Perhaps most importantly, share with us the labels associated with the specific drug (how you labeled the package on the outside for the customs to read).

This post is really directed towards people with experience. If you sent one package and called it a day then that does nothing to prove the efficiency of your approach. I'm not fancy and shit. You don't need to have the "Manufacturer" tag to engage in this thread. Just some personal experience yk.

I think a little discussion would hurt nobody.

 

[mistun]

Everything I've ever sent through mail was sent in double vacuum bags (a bag inside a bag). I wear gloves, and each bag is cleaned using an isopropyl alcohol or ethanol bath and thoroughly scrubbed after being sealed. This essentially prevents any smell from getting out, and vacuum bags are in and of themselves quite cheap.
I've never had any package seized, but I've never shipped internationally so might no be completely relevant. I've successfully shipped mushrooms, weed and mescaline that way.

 

[Never to sleep]

Everything I've ever sent through mail was sent in double vacuum bags (a bag inside a bag). I wear gloves, and each bag is cleaned using an isopropyl alcohol or ethanol bath and thoroughly scrubbed after being sealed. This essentially prevents any smell from getting out, and vacuum bags are in and of themselves quite cheap.
I've never had any package seized, but I've never shipped internationally so might no be completely relevant. I've successfully shipped mushrooms, weed and mescaline that way.

mistunCool. Thanks for your input. Do you put anything else in the package other than the double sealed vacuum bag to blend it in?

 

[mistun]

Cool. Thanks for your input. Do you put anything else in the package other than the double sealed vacuum bag to blend it in?

Never to sleepNope, but that's something I should work on more. Also, I've heard of some methods to conceal cocaine, like adsorbed on charcoal or mixed with a thiocyanate

 

[Never to sleep]

Nope, but that's something I should work on more. Also, I've heard of some methods to conceal cocaine, like adsorbed on charcoal or mixed with a thiocyanate

mistunYeah the charcoal was used in the ages of Escobar by their rivaling cartel.

 

[workworkwork]

What is the function of thiocyanate, what is that?

 

[Never to sleep]

What is the function of thiocyanate, what is that?

workworkworkDude, check the thread you're commenting on

 

[workworkwork]

Read the thread you're commenting on, if someone says a method to conceal cocaine is thiocyanate, is normal ask how that is done, not everyone knows what is thiocyanate.

 

[Never to sleep]

Read the thread you're commenting on, if someone says a method to conceal cocaine is thiocyanate, is normal ask how that is done, not everyone knows what is thiocyanate.

workworkworkWell you didn't phrase it that way before. It almost seemed like you commented on the wrong thread. If you had said something like "I saw people using thiocyanate. Why? How does it help?" that would've made sense but your expression does not hint shipping relationship at all

 

[HIGGS BOSSON]

What do you think about packing substances using a home 3d printer?

When sending substances, it is important to imitate the correct legend, which is indicated in the documents (bill of lading).

If possible, it is better to use auto delivery, because the parcel passes the control scanners in the air.

It is necessary to make out using fake personal and contact data.

I sometimes hid substances in electronics.

 

[Never to sleep]

What do you think about packing substances using a home 3d printer?

When sending substances, it is important to imitate the correct legend, which is indicated in the documents (bill of lading).

If possible, it is better to use auto delivery, because the parcel passes the control scanners in the air.

It is necessary to make out using fake personal and contact data.

I sometimes hid substances in electronics.

HIGGS BOSSONI was considering this too actually. In many countries there are electronics dedicated thrash bins which you can loot to obtain various broken electronics including circuit boards and such. They vary in density greatly across the entire surface which is what X-RAY scanners are checking for. This does seem like the ultimate way to hide substances if you divide them somehow evenly across a surface of say a random circuit board. Nice.

 

[madmoney69]

If send expensive and bulk amounts it has to match the story. It cant be cheap decoy if shipping cost 2000usd or smth. It has to match the story. If decoy looks expensive and well done its believable people buy and pay thousand or smth for shipping of it. Have to be creative to make money

 

[idlewild]

I got a sample of codeine from China and when it arrived I got a fruitcake. It threw me off and I started thinking it was like soaked into the cake or something until I finally realized it had a false center. Then I could find the side the opened and sure enough there was a bag of lean inside. And it made it through Chinese and US customs. It was pretty damn slick.

 

[KokosDreams]

I got a sample of codeine from China and when it arrived I got a fruitcake. It threw me off and I started thinking it was like soaked into the cake or something until I finally realized it had a false center. Then I could find the side the opened and sure enough there was a bag of lean inside. And it made it through Chinese and US customs. It was pretty damn slick.

idlewildInteresting, was this ordered via Alibaba?

 

[idlewild]

Interesting, was this ordered via Alibaba?

KokosDreamsIt was actually a vendor from here, he made a post on the sample forum with several different drugs to offer. I got in with him first and got the chem I wanted and he got it shipped with in a couple days and it reached me in the US in a little over 2 weeks I think. I was psyched to write him a review and do some real business with him but he's disappeared. I can't find him or his posts anywhere and I even asked the mod and he said he didn't know anything about it. It's crazy.

 

[KokosDreams]

It was actually a vendor from here, he made a post on the sample forum with several different drugs to offer. I got in with him first and got the chem I wanted and he got it shipped with in a couple days and it reached me in the US in a little over 2 weeks I think. I was psyched to write him a review and do some real business with him but he's disappeared. I can't find him or his posts anywhere and I even asked the mod and he said he didn't know anything about it. It's crazy.

idlewildDamn man

I had the same with a guy from spain, sending me 10 bottles of codeine for an amazing price and never re-appearing again after the first succesful order, that hurts

 

[idlewild]

Damn man

I had the same with a guy from spain, sending me 10 bottles of codeine for an amazing price and never re-appearing again after the first succesful order, that hurts

KokosDreamsDamn that's rough, always hurts to lose a plug like that

 

[psy]

Popular substances are a nightmare to ship. If the dogs can smell it your job becomes way harder. Weed, coce, xtc, meth, etc... Require vacuum sealing and even then it isn't a guarantee. With these substances you are basically playing a game of whether they will be caught or not. If you are really good maybe 5% of your packages will get seized. It is almost impossible to have none get seized. People don't realize that, it is more about how the package was shipped more than anything else. If there is any red flags with it, odds are it will get searched. No return address, ambiguous description, label created online, low claimed value, etc.
For what I currently ship it is quite easy. Depending on the country sometimes I don't have to hide it at all because it is legal. They can't seize items that aren't prohibited. I usually hide it within an item though. Something small that can be hollowed out to fit a couple grams of powder. You also don't want the item to be easily open-able. The item has to be destroyed to access the contents. As long as it is packed well it doesn't look suspicious on an xray either. I use cotton balls to pack it really tight so there is no empty space. The item also shouldn't be overly heavy or light for what it is, so you can only put so much in one item or have to really fill it with cotton or something else to get the weight up. WIPE EVERYTHING!!! Instead of breaking open the item if they find it suspicious they will wipe the outside and test it for residues. Hopefully this helps

 

[Never to sleep]

Popular substances are a nightmare to ship. If the dogs can smell it your job becomes way harder. Weed, coce, xtc, meth, etc... Require vacuum sealing and even then it isn't a guarantee. With these substances you are basically playing a game of whether they will be caught or not. If you are really good maybe 5% of your packages will get seized. It is almost impossible to have none get seized. People don't realize that, it is more about how the package was shipped more than anything else. If there is any red flags with it, odds are it will get searched. No return address, ambiguous description, label created online, low claimed value, etc.
For what I currently ship it is quite easy. Depending on the country sometimes I don't have to hide it at all because it is legal. They can't seize items that aren't prohibited. I usually hide it within an item though. Something small that can be hollowed out to fit a couple grams of powder. You also don't want the item to be easily open-able. The item has to be destroyed to access the contents. As long as it is packed well it doesn't look suspicious on an xray either. I use cotton balls to pack it really tight so there is no empty space. The item also shouldn't be overly heavy or light for what it is, so you can only put so much in one item or have to really fill it with cotton or something else to get the weight up. WIPE EVERYTHING!!! Instead of breaking open the item if they find it suspicious they will wipe the outside and test it for residues. Hopefully this helps

psyTesting from outside. Interesting note...

 

[psy]

Testing from outside. Interesting note...

Never to sleepsorry no I just mean the item the product is within. For example if I hid cocaine in a teddy bear they will likely not destroy the teddy bear but instead see if there is tiny amounts on the inside of the package or the teddy bear. If that comes back positive well they got you. I should have made this more clear I see where the confusion comes from. No they don't swab the outside lol

 

[Never to sleep]

sorry no I just mean the item the product is within. For example if I hid cocaine in a teddy bear they will likely not destroy the teddy bear but instead see if there is tiny amounts on the inside of the package or the teddy bear. If that comes back positive well they got you. I should have made this more clear I see where the confusion comes from. No they don't swab the outside lol

psyYes I understood. I genuinely found your comment interesting. No irony involved

 

[madmoney69]

Popular substances are a nightmare to ship. If the dogs can smell it your job becomes way harder. Weed, coce, xtc, meth, etc... Require vacuum sealing and even then it isn't a guarantee. With these substances you are basically playing a game of whether they will be caught or not. If you are really good maybe 5% of your packages will get seized. It is almost impossible to have none get seized. People don't realize that, it is more about how the package was shipped more than anything else. If there is any red flags with it, odds are it will get searched. No return address, ambiguous description, label created online, low claimed value, etc.
For what I currently ship it is quite easy. Depending on the country sometimes I don't have to hide it at all because it is legal. They can't seize items that aren't prohibited. I usually hide it within an item though. Something small that can be hollowed out to fit a couple grams of powder. You also don't want the item to be easily open-able. The item has to be destroyed to access the contents. As long as it is packed well it doesn't look suspicious on an xray either. I use cotton balls to pack it really tight so there is no empty space. The item also shouldn't be overly heavy or light for what it is, so you can only put so much in one item or have to really fill it with cotton or something else to get the weight up. WIPE EVERYTHING!!! Instead of breaking open the item if they find it suspicious they will wipe the outside and test it for residues. Hopefully this helps

psyGame gets more complicated when you get to hundred grams shipping.
But yeah.
First red flag is the origin country. If you live in drug state you will have problems shipping to other continents like usa.
I saw some little G's offer from europe shipping to usa or australia by express. Never really worked, slow and steady is best option and i know many smart vendors who offer only mail regular post option only to these countries. You only need one package to be seized to get case started building and investigation. Stay safe G's and last.

 

[psy]

If you are shipping large amounts it is all a numbers game. Fake addresses is a must. The receiver should use a p.o. box with a fake name. Ship with express. The goal here is simply to beat the system. Follow the tracking number. Use a VPN when checking the tracking number!!! If the package is at all delayed forget about it. It's gone. If there is no delays and it is delivered on time odds are you are good. This isn't a game you can play forever. Make your money and leave before a really strong case is built against you. DO NOT GET COMFORTABLE! Never think because it worked once without problems it will work again.