Shopping list homelab for noob

[1019er]

I looked threw amazon and I want to share the list of lab products I've found to use for different uses.

Please feel free to give me advice on the equipment I want to buy.

My plan is to keep it small and cost effective.


1.Destillation kit
(vevor 1000ml distilling kit) with or without heating element?

2. Beaker, extra tubing, ducting

3. Funnel, test tubes, pipette, spatula, fans , bucket. filterwash bottles, ph test kit, clamps, tools.

4. Safety equipment (mask, gloves etc.)

5. Vacuum pump+ chamber

6. Magnet stirrer with heater: Onilab 280°

7. Water pump.

Thx in advance

 

[Frit Buchner]

If you're like me you'll just keep going and going. There are people here who don't have a single piece of glass. There are people with every piece you can Imagine. I started where you are starting and have so far added;
1. A cold trap or your pump will be full of water. It dies some other things too.
2. A Claisen adapter. I bought it because my rm was bumping into the condenser, but it's handy to have 2 ports in your boiling flask, for a funnel or a gas injector
3. 3-neck flask, react, reflux and distill without tearing down
4. Allihn condenser for reflux
5. A drying tube for several reasons
Calcium chloride, magnesium sulfate molecular sieve other drying slants
6.5. Crystallization pans, I got several Pyrex pie pans. There $3/PC or something
Extra kek clamps they break or get lost
Actually number 1.A Buckner funnel for real. It's a must have. I suggest one with the vacuum port on the funnel so you can use any flask.

That's just what I've done. I have a few other pieces I didn't mention, flat bottom flasks erlenmeyer set, test tubes. Clamps vacuum grease

 

[googie]

Beakers, you can never have enough, and 2 sep. funnels.

 

[1019er]

Beakers, you can never have enough, and 2 sep. funnels.

googieThx for the tips, any advice for a cheap magnetic stirrer with heating plate?

 

[UWe9o12jkied91d]

Thx for the tips, any advice for a cheap magnetic stirrer with heating plate?

1019erDo yourself a favor and get a vevor overhead stirrer for 60E and pair with a mantle and/or a kitchen hotplate that can be used for a liquid bath.
If you are in Europe I recommend avoiding vevor glassware, they have a proprietary joint, I can recommend some solid glass vendors.If this is a long term thing you're planning might aswell go future proof.

 

[41Dxflatline]

Those Vevor 32pcs distillation kits you get on ebay are a bargain and IMHO a proper glass reflux/distillation kit and a vacuum pump + buchner are essential. You'll also want a magnetic stirring hotplate with proper temp control and a cheap submersible aquarium pump for your condensers.

Standard safety equipment, full face respirator, lab coat, gloves.

That's your essential equipment other than sundries like spatulas, glass rods, filter paper etc. Anything else really depends on what you're doing. No point buying soxhlet extractors or gas wash bottles unless you're doing something that requires them but you'll always be distilling at some point.

 

[SoldadoDeDrogas]

Those Vevor 32pcs distillation kits you get on ebay are a bargain and IMHO a proper glass reflux/distillation kit and a vacuum pump + buchner are essential. You'll also want a magnetic stirring hotplate with proper temp control and a cheap submersible aquarium pump for your condensers.

Standard safety equipment, full face respirator, lab coat, gloves.

That's your essential equipment other than sundries like spatulas, glass rods, filter paper etc. Anything else really depends on what you're doing. No point buying soxhlet extractors or gas wash bottles unless you're doing something that requires them but you'll always be distilling at some point.

41DxflatlineThank you for mentioning the 32 piece kit! Seems too good to be true. Got one on the way. This will serve the same purpose for distillation and refluxing ? One should be able to improvise a buchner with a glass cutter and some trash. Submersible is easy enough to come by.
That leaves a stirring hotplate and vacuum pump which should be attainable for >$200.
So really, about $300 and now we're cookin'. Thank you again.

 

[41Dxflatline]

Thank you for mentioning the 32 piece kit! Seems too good to be true. Got one on the way. This will serve the same purpose for distillation and refluxing ? One should be able to improvise a buchner with a glass cutter and some trash. Submersible is easy enough to come by.
That leaves a stirring hotplate and vacuum pump which should be attainable for >$200.
So really, about $300 and now we're cookin'. Thank you again.

SoldadoDeDrogasYes, I mostly use the Allihn condenser for reflux or you can use the Vigreux for some applications. The Liebig and Graham condensers for distillation. Since you're probably new to this these PDFs are essential reading for a noob

 

[googie]

The Vevor equipment is actually really good for the price point. I have that distillation kit, hasn't skipped a beat.

https://m.vevor.com/magnetic-stirrer-c_11062/vevor-magnetic-stirrer-hot-plate-digital-hotplate-stirrer-2000-rpm-2l-w-stand-p_010493051894

And

https://m.vevor.com/magnetic-stirrer-c_11062/1000ml-lab-electric-heating-mantle-sleeves-magnetic-stirrer-500w-thermost-heater-p_010322605939

With all the rest you've mentioned is a great starter. The rest you'll acquire as needed. Best of luck.

 

[1019er]

I got a little update for my upcoming home lab.
So now the buchler funnel and flask arrived are ready to use with bleached fiterpaper.
I already got another beaker and magnetic stirrers.
I already got latex gloves from the cleaning department

I think the next big step will be the vevor extraction kit+ the heating and stirring element and the vacuum chamber.

Beside this I think I'll need some more beakers and safety equipment to start the 4mmc production

 

[1019er]

So I'm a bit confused now about what equipment I should get next for 4mmc synthesis?

First I thought I will need the extraction kit, but I've also seen doing the methylamine and toluene synthesis with only plastic pods. I also got a normal cooking hotplate.

So what would u suggest to get next? Are a few plastic pods and measuring cups plus a proper gas mask enough?

Greez

 

[1019er]

Amazon Shopping List:

1. labglass
https://www.amazon.de/VEVOR-Laborat...fix=laborglas+vevor,aps,138&sr=8-3&th=1&psc=1

2. Vacuum pump
https://www.amazon.de/VEVOR-Vakuump...1702215042&sprefix=vevor+vakuu,aps,177&sr=8-5

3. Heater,magnetic stirrer
https://www.amazon.de/VEVOR-Heizman...=vevor+labot+heizmantel+1000ml,aps,200&sr=8-1


4. Safety equipment
https://www.amazon.de/Gefahrgutkoff...A==&sprefix=gefahrgutkoffer+73,aps,184&sr=8-1

Lab glass holder
https://www.amazon.de/VEVOR-Unterst...09-91f2-78a2619bce37&pd_rd_i=B093F7BWDX&psc=1

Total amount: 487, 95 €

tell me what do you think about my shopping list.

I want to produce 3 and 4 mmc at first.

if I can do cheaper please let me know because it's an investment around 1000€ to start, which is not a small amount of money for me!

 

[Mr Good Cat]

Amazon Shopping List:

1. labglass
https://www.amazon.de/VEVOR-Laborat...fix=laborglas+vevor,aps,138&sr=8-3&th=1&psc=1

2. Vacuum pump
https://www.amazon.de/VEVOR-Vakuump...1702215042&sprefix=vevor+vakuu,aps,177&sr=8-5

3. Heater,magnetic stirrer
https://www.amazon.de/VEVOR-Heizman...=vevor+labot+heizmantel+1000ml,aps,200&sr=8-1


4. Safety equipment
https://www.amazon.de/Gefahrgutkoff...A==&sprefix=gefahrgutkoffer+73,aps,184&sr=8-1

Lab glass holder
https://www.amazon.de/VEVOR-Unterst...09-91f2-78a2619bce37&pd_rd_i=B093F7BWDX&psc=1

Total amount: 487, 95 €

tell me what do you think about my shopping list.

I want to produce 3 and 4 mmc at first.

if I can do cheaper please let me know because it's an investment around 1000€ to start, which is not a small amount of money for me!

1019erI prefer to purchase Vevor on their Poland website vevor.pl in PLN. Funny, but it is some cheaper than on eur.vevor.com in EUR.

 

[1019er]

I prefer to purchase Vevor on their Poland website vevor.pl in PLN. Funny, but it is some cheaper than on eur.vevor.com in EUR.

Mr Good CatI have seen ppl producing 4mmc only in plastic containers so not sure if the lab glass is really necessary beside for the purpose of drying acetone

 

[kpach]

Amazon Shopping List:

1. labglass
https://www.amazon.de/VEVOR-Laborat...fix=laborglas+vevor,aps,138&sr=8-3&th=1&psc=1

2. Vacuum pump
https://www.amazon.de/VEVOR-Vakuump...1702215042&sprefix=vevor+vakuu,aps,177&sr=8-5

3. Heater,magnetic stirrer
https://www.amazon.de/VEVOR-Heizman...=vevor+labot+heizmantel+1000ml,aps,200&sr=8-1


4. Safety equipment
https://www.amazon.de/Gefahrgutkoff...A==&sprefix=gefahrgutkoffer+73,aps,184&sr=8-1

Lab glass holder
https://www.amazon.de/VEVOR-Unterst...09-91f2-78a2619bce37&pd_rd_i=B093F7BWDX&psc=1

Total amount: 487, 95 €

tell me what do you think about my shopping list.

I want to produce 3 and 4 mmc at first.

if I can do cheaper please let me know because it's an investment around 1000€ to start, which is not a small amount of money for me!

1019erGood luck with your production and thank you for sharing some of your research/equipment!

 

[SoldadoDeDrogas]

Hey @1019er did you ever end up making any cat? How did it come out?

 

[1019er]

Hey @1019er did you ever end up making any cat? How did it come out?

SoldadoDeDrogasUnfortunatly not, but soon i got the money for the lab Equipment. In my opinion it doest make no sense to buy it partwise

 

[Frit Buchner]

Unfortunatly not, but soon i got the money for the lab Equipment. In my opinion it doest make no sense to buy it partwise

1019erThere ain't a kit out there that is complete. I've never seen a kit with a cold trap. It might have 4 condensers but no cold trap. I haven't seen a pressure equalizing funnel in a kit either. Since you haven't bought it yet let's get yu straigtened out. Don't get a mantle it will only do 1 size flask. A plate can do any flask beakers erlymeyers. A plate is more versatile. I NEVER seen a kit with a water pump. You can distill without vacuum but not without a water pump. The hoses in those kits, junk. They run water to your condensers but they collapse under vacuum

 

[SoldadoDeDrogas]

There ain't a kit out there that is complete. I've never seen a kit with a cold trap. It might have 4 condensers but no cold trap. I haven't seen a pressure equalizing funnel in a kit either. Since you haven't bought it yet let's get yu straigtened out. Don't get a mantle it will only do 1 size flask. A plate can do any flask beakers erlymeyers. A plate is more versatile. I NEVER seen a kit with a water pump. You can distill without vacuum but not without a water pump. The hoses in those kits, junk. They run water to your condensers but they collapse under vacuum

Frit BuchnerFrit has got your back.
It may be better for stealth purposes to buy everything piecemeal.
If one did decide to get a heating mantle, it would be best to get a larger one and then you can use smaller sized flasks in it by using a sand bath?

 

[SoldadoDeDrogas]

Theres so much glassware being sold on Amazon right now, the DEA would have to hire 10x the work force and it would still take 10 years to cover the backlog. Go On AMAZON And look up 1000ML erlymeyer flask. 10,000 . Ave been sold this year already

Frit BuchnerI wasn't thinking solely about glassware, I don't see too much risk in buying glassware. It's the thought of buying everything necessary for a synthesis all at once, with the same method, to the same address, etc. I don't mean to come off as overly paranoid, I am probably one of the most stupid and reckless. Just a suggestion, and reminder, be careful, stay safe.

 

[Frit Buchner]

I wasn't thinking solely about glassware, I don't see too much risk in buying glassware. It's the thought of buying everything necessary for a synthesis all at once, with the same method, to the same address, etc. I don't mean to come off as overly paranoid, I am probably one of the most stupid and reckless. Just a suggestion, and reminder, be careful, stay safe.

SoldadoDeDrogasYou would shit if you knew what's came through my doors and out again. I do spread things out between local places and online but sitting on my stoop together has been some radical products

 

[Frit Buchner]

Nevrrmind, I didn't look hard at this dinosaur and thought it was a chicken. I've already commented a long time ago. I got all that shit on my wishlist though