Synthesis of Amphetamine from P2NP via SnCl2 and Zn

[TucoSalamanca.]

From 7.5 grams of p2np I obtained 4 grams of amphetamine. Is it good?

 

[mithyl2]

From 7.5 grams of p2np I obtained 4 grams of amphetamine. Is it good?

TucoSalamanca.have you tested it with a reagent?

 

[TucoSalamanca.]

I don't have access to concentrated sulfuric acid where I am. If you have it could you try to precipitate the amphetamine with 85% phosphoric acid and see how pure your end product is?

I have no idea why the synthesis keeps failing for me, but I think the 85% phosphoric acid I'm using is the only thing that remains the same throughout all of my synthesis attempts.

Thank for any help

mithyl2I tested the boiling point, true, but not the purity.

 

[yuiopjkl]

As I said before, I have not tried this method yet, but it was copied from another forum (I think from the Hydra forum).
The method may require some details that experts may assist with.

Such as activating zinc with hydrochloric acid before using it.

There are also some unique synthesis, such as the synthesis of meth from ephedrine using iodine and aluminum, or from P2NP, but I decided to publish it after trying it myself.

 

[mithyl2]

As I said before, I have not tried this method yet, but it was copied from another forum (I think from the Hydra forum).
The method may require some details that experts may assist with.

Such as activating zinc with hydrochloric acid before using it.

There are also some unique synthesis, such as the synthesis of meth from ephedrine using iodine and aluminum, or from P2NP, but I decided to publish it after trying it myself.

yuiopjklwhat kind of results have you had after trying it?

i've produced amphetamine with it but it's so unbelievably contaminated.

 

[GDC]

As I said before, I have not tried this method yet, but it was copied from another forum (I think from the Hydra forum).
The method may require some details that experts may assist with.

Such as activating zinc with hydrochloric acid before using it.

There are also some unique synthesis, such as the synthesis of meth from ephedrine using iodine and aluminum, or from P2NP, but I decided to publish it after trying it myself.

yuiopjklThat is what i was thinking....

Because you need to activate the zinc before use NaOH. But yes you can use GAA .... u will need more time...

 

[TucoSalamanca.]

how can I make it snortable ie how can I make amphetamine speed paste

 

[TucoSalamanca.]

After synthesis I snort amphetamine through my nose, only my nose hurts, I feel nothing, why?

yuiopjkl​

 

[mithyl2]

After synthesis I snort amphetamine through my nose, only my nose hurts, I feel nothing, why?

yuiopjkl​

TucoSalamanca.What did you test your amphetamine with to verify that it's amphetamine? I think I'm having the same problems you are. I've just been synthesizing bunk..

I've used marquis reagent tests

 

[TucoSalamanca.]

What did you test your amphetamine with to verify that it's amphetamine? I think I'm having the same problems you are. I've just been synthesizing bunk..

I've used marquis reagent tests

mithyl2I don't have a test kit, how can I test?

 

[TucoSalamanca.]

What did you test your amphetamine with to verify that it's amphetamine? I think I'm having the same problems you are. I've just been synthesizing bunk..

I've used marquis reagent tests

mithyl2Doesn't it work when you snort it in your synthesis?

 

[mithyl2]

depending on where you are in the world you can buy reagent test kits.

google 'reagent test kits'.

and do you mean, is snorting a good way to test the product?

 

[TucoSalamanca.]

depending on where you are in the world you can buy reagent test kits.

google 'reagent test kits'.

and do you mean, is snorting a good way to test the product?

mithyl2use with your nose if you are sure it is a product like a line

 

[TucoSalamanca.]

use with your nose if you are sure it is a product like a line

TucoSalamanca.and finally, how do we plant the naoh solution after the zinc is mixed, slowly or quickly?

 

[mithyl2]

use with your nose if you are sure it is a product like a line

TucoSalamanca.you'll want to test with a reagent test before consuming it in any way. test it and let us know the results. otherwise you could hurt yourself because what you're consuming might not be amphetamine.

 

[TucoSalamanca.]

you'll want to test with a reagent test before consuming it in any way. test it and let us know the results. otherwise you could hurt yourself because what you're consuming might not be amphetamine.

mithyl2my nose hurts when I sniff my nose, but it doesn't work

 

[TucoSalamanca.]

depending on where you are in the world you can buy reagent test kits.

google 'reagent test kits'.

and do you mean, is snorting a good way to test the product?

mithyl2Should the product be a/b extracted again after a/b extraction?

 

[mithyl2]

Should the product be a/b extracted again after a/b extraction?

TucoSalamanca.one extraction should be enough. but unless what you've got is actually amphetamine then it's pointless. and a/b extraction is a way to see if what you've got is amphetamine, because if no layer of oil forms then you don't have any amphetamine.

look up /threads/amphetamine-purification-by-acid-base-extraction.788/ if you haven't already.

 

[TucoSalamanca.]

one extraction should be enough. but unless what you've got is actually amphetamine then it's pointless. and a/b extraction is a way to see if what you've got is amphetamine, because if no layer of oil forms then you don't have any amphetamine.

look up /threads/amphetamine-purification-by-acid-base-extraction.788/ if you haven't already.

mithyl2How slowly do we add the naoh solution after adding zinc?

 

[mithyl2]

How slowly do we add the naoh solution after adding zinc?

TucoSalamanca.I think I added it all in one go, but steadily.

 

[TucoSalamanca.]

I think I added it all in one go, but steadily.

mithyl2So how do we know it's amphetamines without a reagent test?

 

[mithyl2]

So how do we know it's amphetamines without a reagent test?

TucoSalamanca.It's not amphetamine because you would have felt an effect from whatever it was that you snorted. Also amphetamine has a bitter taste I think.

You could do an A/B test and see if a layer of oil forms, but the reagent test is perhaps the best way overall. Where do you live in the world? Get a reagent test - you can buy them with cryptocurrency or card.

You could send it to 'energy control' in Spain for a gas chromatography test to get an exact analysis of what it is. You could also send it to the Welsh testing lab 'wedinos' for free, but they will only tell you what compound it is and not the exact composition of it, like the way 'energy control' do.

 

[wael gano]

But if there's no amphetamine present in the salt, there won't be any oily layer (i think this is the amphetamine free base) forming on top, right? Tuco's problem seems to be the same as mine, where we are not synthesizing amphetamine, but another unidentified compound. I have repeatedly experienced this failure with the borohydride method as well, even when I used different forms of it

mithyl2Yes, correct
If a transparent or slightly yellowish oil layer does not form in the separating funnel, it is important to see an oil layer when extracting the base.
If you don't see this, you won't have a free amphetamine base (maybe you reacted wrongly).
There is a concern about the tin chloride process and the extraction of the oxime in ethyl acetate. When extracting the oxime in ethyl acetate does delamination occur? Can you extract the oxime in a non-polar solvent, ether or DCM?
There is an interference of inorganic salts in this synthesis

 

[wael gano]

But if there's no amphetamine present in the salt, there won't be any oily layer (i think this is the amphetamine free base) forming on top, right? Tuco's problem seems to be the same as mine, where we are not synthesizing amphetamine, but another unidentified compound. I have repeatedly experienced this failure with the borohydride method as well, even when I used different forms of it

mithyl2Borohydride is a good reducing agent
Make sure it is pure copper chloride
I suggest you react p2np with aluminum amalgam. Try it in small quantities, starting with the correct amalgam. Add p2np in two stages and control the temperature of the amalgam.
Extract the free base with isopropyl alcohol